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Awake In Rochester

The minimum wage is younger then McCain? Oh my, I didn't know that!

He was good on SNL when he lampooned himself. He has a good sense of humor.

Screech

Federal Minimum Wage law was passed in 1938 as part of the Fair Labor Standards Act (at $0.25/hr)(state versions were patchworked together as early as 1912, but there were lots of judicial problems with implementation). However, there was a Federal minimum wage enacted in 1933, but the act that it was a part of (National Industry Recovery Act) was struck down as unconsitiutional in 1935.

I'm not that old, but even I can remember a time when kids respected their parents, didn't bring guns to school, and gave their teachers some measure of respect. I even remember the "paddle" in the principal's office. Things sure have changed thanks to numerous lawyers and parents who don't respect any authority at all...

Awake In Rochester

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Romulus Crowe

I'm keeping quiet because there are too many things younger than me.

I owned a ZX-81 when it was state of the art!

I'll say no more...

tom sheepandgoats

Screech: Lawyers, I think, are behind a lot of our societal woes.

Awake: You know how I love prizes. Thanks.

Romulus: Oh my! Really? And they let you on the internet?

Actually, I had to google ZX-81 to find what it was. Turns out the problem is not that it is too old but too British. Sinclair was a British firm. I had never heard of it. Here in the states Commodore was the groundbreaking computer. I'm not sure if the two were direct competitors. If your machines were ever sold here, I was too foreign to computing to know it.

Screech

Commodore! I had a VIC-20, C-64, C-128, and Commodore Amiga 2000 & 500. I love those machines! I recently hooked up my C-128 to my TV and when I loaded a favorite game, by son thought that the computer had crashed! Remember the Cassette tapes on the early home computers?

tom sheepandgoats

I once took a computer networking course (prior to my brief stint as DSL technician) and in a round robin session, students were asked what drew them to the course. Student after student answered that they had owned the first Commodore as a kid...and every upgrade thereafter, and they'd feasted on the early computer languages, and they'd lived and breathed computers ever since. I knew I was in trouble. My interest was purely mercenary & I was up against true believers!

Screech

A lot has changed since then...

vargas

You know things are crazy when people accuse you of being old and cranky because you prefer email and actually connecting with a human voice over texting someone on a phone.

Speaking of computing, does anyone remember the Apple IIe and the Oregon Trail game? I was in middle school when I first started using computers. Good times!

tom sheepandgoats

Vargas

Unfortunately, I remember the IBM 360 computer. Our high school had one for those who wanted to take "computer math" and learn Fortran.

It occupied an entire room. It required air-conditioning. You had to feed it data via punch cards.

NateDredge

The LDS Church also shares and prizes a leadership made up primarly of old men. We recently lost our 97 year old prophet/president Gordon B. Hinckley, he was replaced in short order by our new 80 year old prophet/president Thomas S. Monson. Anyway in a 1996 interview with Mike Wallace on 60 Minutes President Hinckley gave a quote on this matter that I always liked, here is that exceprt from the transcript:

Mike Wallace [voiceover; footage of missionaries continues]: Gordon Hinckley says he never intended to become president of the church, but that one by one all the other church leaders with more seniority died.

[Gordon B. Hinckley interview]

Mike Wallace: There are those who say, this is a gerontocracy, this is a church run by old men.

Gordon B. Hinckley: Isn't it wonderful? To have a man of maturity at the head, a man of judgment, who isn't blown about by every wind of doctrine?

Mike Wallace: Absolutely, as long as he's not dotty. [Laughs.]

Gordon B. Hinckley: [Laughs] Thank you for the compliment.

tom sheepandgoats

Outlive the competition...that's the secret!

Reminds me of one of our people, an architect, in another town. He's always in demand and his works are well-regarded....I've even heard the description "inspired."

He tells me (only partly tongue-in-cheek)that the secret is just to keep your shingle out there long enough. He worked his way up....he's never been to college, he says. People just assume it.

No doubt an architect does need college now. But he's been grandfathered in, I'm sure.

NateDredge

Speaking of College, I’ve heard tale that higher education is discouraged among members of your faith. Is that true, if so why? Just curious.

tom sheepandgoats

It is true, Nate, for the most part. It takes a little explaining, so counter does it run to counsel from anywhere else. I'll post on it soon and let you know.

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